Thursday, September 20, 2007

How many more have to die?

9 comments:

MadMax said...

I'm guessing you are not a Veteran Dr. D. I am also guessing that you are a bleeding hearted liberal that is willing to enjoy the freedoms guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution but are unwilling to stand a watch to defend it. Not only that, you are willing to denigrate those that do. There are many that do not serve, it is not required, but to not serve and spread the kind you crap you wrote above is beneath contempt. I call you coward. By questioning how many more must die you suggest that the young men and women who have made the ultimate sacrifice have done so in vain. You aren’t capable of understanding their selfless contribution.

ashley said...

And just how do you understand this "selfless contribution," Madmax? How exactly is our presence "selfless?" Why are we still over there? Are you personally standing guard, or are you refusing the freedoms guaranteed by the US? How are we all supposed to feel about a war that is "sacrificing" the lives of countless Americans every day?

Since you seem to have all the answers and have no problem expressing your opinion, maybe you could answer these questions for all of us cowards.

KaiserPatrick said...

As many as it takes until there is undisputable and complete victory. This is one of the few wars I've ever heard of in which there are groups of people wanting to set up a timetable for retreat followed by what will be viewed as defeat. America should make a goal for victory. There is no such thing as bloodless wars and every war America faces, there should be no cost too great. In 217BC, 60,000 Roman Legionaries were wiped out at the Battle of Cannae in the Second Punic War, out of a total population of only a few million, yet they continued to fight on to victory, in a war both at home and on foreign soil.

I agree with mad max and personally I have 5 good friends of mine who are currently enlisted. Listen up Ashley, we are in Iraq to change a political system, it sounds like you liked it better with Saddam and his cruel form dictatorship. Those Americans, who are proudly serving overseas VOLUNTEERED to fight. My Best friend joined the Marine corps, not for the money, but to serve his country overseas or where ever duty may call. We should all be willing to give up our lives before watching our nation be defeated in any war.

aditi said...

I think the point here was how many more have to die for a war that isn't necessary. True, there are times when a country needs to be defended (and it takes great bravery to defend it), but the war in Iraq is not such a time. The war in Iraq is not a necessary war. It is a war to serve the self interest of the US government. It is a sacrifice being made by the US government so as to establish oil contracts that will be beneficial to its economy. Thus it is a war where soldiers are dying in vain. They signed up to protect their country when its territories were being threatened. Not to feed its greed for oil. Halliburton, an oil services company located in Texas and formerly run by Dick Cheney, was awarded a contract from the Government to operate in post war Iraq. The wall street journal estimates this contract to be worth 900 million dollars. So the question is 'How many more have to die till the government realizes that the oil just isn't worth it?'

Ryan said...

Aditi said it perfectly. This war is unnecessary and there is no way to justify it. It’s sad that so many people have had to die over something that is uncalled for. And just because someone points this out, it in no way is an insult to those who serve our country. Our freedoms granted by the US Constitution were never in jeopardy, and if they were, invading Iraq is not the way to protect these freedoms.

Tigist said...
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Tigist said...

I totally agree with aditi that this war is UNNECESSARY, but how long will it take until our president realizes this. Does he not understand how many people are dying for no apparent reason?

A said...

The picture says it all in this case. Yes, our soldiers volunteered to put our country before themselves and defend our nation and the morals and values, which we stand for, but asking them to risk their life for the war in Iraq is not asking them to defend our country. It is instead asking them to defend the Bush administration's pride. Never were our country’s freedoms directly put in jeopardy. This is not a war worth fighting. However now we are in so deep it is hard to dig ourselves out. And at this point if we pull our troops out are we saying that we have given up? Are we showing the world that we are weaker than before thought?

Kat said...

While yes, the American troops in Iraq did volunteer for this and understand what they are getting themselves into, including the possibility of death, yet they only agreed to their first term in Iraq. So many soldiers are being kept past their first term, and many want to come home. So are allowed to come home but are shortly recalled back to Iraq. This doesn't seem fair to me. We keep coming to standstills in Iraq over politics and democracy-this should have been finished a long time ago.